Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 4
Part 4 of this article will focus on the Shadow Spiders and the lore surrounding them. I thought this was very important, considering that Carry, in Part 2 of these articles, was experiencing these now or had been. When I Google’d the subject, I found quite a few people searching for answers but left empty as no one seems to know. The answers they have gotten varies. Some confuse the experience with that of dream but the person clearly states, “I am not dreaming.” In some cases the spouse, boyfriend or whoever was there saw them to. Some of these people are experiencing the Hypnagogia (Click here and here) but many are not. It is happening so much that in some cases the people are seeing them wide awake. For some they are snapping out of the Hypnagogia, still seeing them and for others, they are seeing them half asleep and then fully awake and aware. They do have a tendency, in these confessions, to disappear not long after they are seen but with Carry, they are not so secretive. (See Part 2 Carry’s interview)
Some of the answers these people are getting is dream symbolism while others are telling them, it is just a dream and you are nuts. I’ve seen some responses suggest that the person seeing them is being attacked by evil. Um…no. I haven’t heard any testimony that suggests that people are being attacked. I have not even heard anything where people have been bitten. Now I am sure there are a few stories out there but aside from the sudden fear factor of seeing these spiders, they seem quite harmless. What I want to know though, is there some link to them and ancient beliefs? Are they from another dimension and are we just catching a glimpse or do they actually have a purpose, a job. So lets see what we can find out and for all of you out there searching for some idea or answer, I hope you find this article. it has to end up better than the whole ‘evil and attack’ thing lol.
To take a look at the lore or beliefs that Ancient Cultures might of had, we have to focus more on Spiders themselves, what they are good at and what comes of it. They are known to make webs, spinners and spinning itself is linked to the fates.
There is a story about the Athene (a Goddess) who became very jealous over a maiden named Arachne. Out of that jealousy, Athene turned Arachne into a spider. Who was Arachne? She was actually said to be a mortal who had a mind blowing skill of weaving. Later stories make her out to be boastful which was her downfall. Although, earlier ones say nothing concerning this, only that certain Goddess’s such as Athene and Minerva became very jealous of a mortal having such skills. Arachne was put through challenges and contests, each she won hands down. Her victory though became her end (or was it) as Athene turned her into a spider. In later writings, Arachne’s skills were reduced to something less than Athene. Apparently as a mortal, her skill proceeded the Goddess in charge. It was only after that the priests of Athene rewrote her stories and she became something of a villain or a lesson not to outshine those of power.
After Arachne was turned into a spider, she was showed beside Athene and viewed as nothing more than a tool but a tool that always sat at the hub of the wheel of fate. It was still believed, especially by medieval writers that Minerva was the source to Arachne’s gift. It was Minerva who gave spiders the ability to spin webs that could foresee the future and of the fates. That’s what Arachne became known for, spinning the web of fate. And from those webs, which each of us had, the future could be foreseen. Later on, Arachne would not only be seen as a spider but one of the three fates themselves, women.
Now in Hindu beliefs, Maya was the spinner of webs. Her webs would be of magic and fate of course but also earthly appearances. The spider was the same if not another version of the Wheel of Fate, known in other cultures and in art. A Goddess was shown with the wheel and a spider would be sitting somewhere in the picture along with her.
Now we know some spiders devour their mates and this was also known in the Ancient World. This to them represented the destructive side of the Goddess since the Goddess, represented the creator and destroyer. She would destroy only to recreate again, rebirth and so on.
According to the Aztecs, spiders were the souls of women and they said that these women would come down from their ‘heaven’ by silk threads (the web) and would devour all of the men of earth. They were kind of like Valkyries (Norse).
In other lore, Odin’s horse was not what we think of a horse but a gigantic Spider, gray. It represented his fate or fate itself.
Man represented the fly caught in the web,(fate, destiny and so forth). The spider represented the Goddess. ‘May the Goddess eat the fly and give unto him new life.’ So in truth, it became just a part of death and then a journey into the new.
Greek lore…three women of the fates:
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- Clotho (pronounced in English IPA: /ˈkloʊθoʊ]/, Greek Κλωθώ IPA: [klɔːˈtʰɔː] – “spinner”) spun the thread of life from her distaff onto her spindle. Her Roman equivalent was Nona, (the ‘Ninth’), who was originally a goddess called upon in the ninth month of pregnancy.
- Lachesis (/ˈlækəsɪs/, Greek Λάχεσις [ˈlɑkʰesis] – “allotter” or drawer of lots) measured the thread of life allotted to each person with her measuring rod. Her Roman equivalent was Decima (the ‘Tenth’).
- Atropos (/ˈætrəpɒs/, Greek Ἄτροπος [ˈɑtropos] – “inexorable” or “inevitable”, literally “unturning”,[4] sometimes called Aisa) was the cutter of the thread of life. She chose the manner and timing of each person’s death. When she cut the thread with “her abhorrèd shears”, someone on Earth died. Her Roman equivalent was Morta (‘Death’). –Wikipedia
Now remember, one of those names in Greek lore concerning the 3 fates was Arachne. So one of the names above is indeed linked to her.
So, in summary but without end, spiders seem to be linked with the Goddess, some Gods, the wheel of Fate, spinning, weaving, each individual human, the world, creations and creation.
Now, here is a picture of the Wheel of Fate:
A more simpler version would be something like this…
Now lets look at a web…
Notice the main lines which always seem to be straight. Then you have the curved lines, connecting the straight ones. So, is it possible that the web is indeed connected with the Wheel of Fate? If you go by mythology, it is.
Now lets look at a dream catcher…
Dream Catchers are getting more Celtic in design with their curved features but, an actual dream catcher was not so curved. It looked like an actual web. The purpose of the web was to catch negativity so that no harm would come to the sleeper. It would trap bad dreams and let the good ones flow through.
See the hole in the center? That’s where the good dreams would flow through.
I suggest you take a look at a show that has been airing on the History Channel. This week is called Armageddon week and even though I don’t buy into the whole ‘end of the world scenario’, in fact I don’t even believe that’s what prophecies are trying to convince us of, there is one very interesting show that I watched last night concerning Nostradamus and his Lost Books. There were drawings he did and in quite a few, there was the wheel of fate. in the picture below:
http://www.history.com/content/nostradamus/nostradamus-book-drawings
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what they don’t show is above the man is indeed the wheel of fate. Now they do show it on the show, so if you can catch it, go right ahead. The people or experts trying to decipher the code focused on the book, claiming it could be the book of life and the fact that it was empty whereas in the other pictures it was not, and then the wheel of fate above, means it could be the end. However, I see this differently. I see it as being a new era, age where as life begins again. The pages are blank only because we are starting something new.
Interesting stuff, check it out. They discuss Hopi prophecy and so forth which also says, some of us will go on into this new age while others do not.
Back to the spiders though. I am convinced that the spiders are linked to the fate and destiny. So to me, if you see them and if you can overcome the fear, it is a good sign. It shows that you are being protected and possibly you are seeing beyond the Veil. On a less spiritual opinion though, it could possibly be that some people are merging with another dimension. Those beliefs are out there and those theories are endless. We each have to decide what we are comfortable with though and build on that.
For further reading concerning lore…
you can check out the Grandmother Spider lore that the American Indians believe in. This is the most common lore that is out there though so I didn’t really discuss it here. I will probably do another article concerning spiders and the wheel of fate so stay tuned for that one. This one is getting pretty long to read so I am going to give your eyes a break lol.
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 1
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 2
Shadow People, Shadow Beings, Shadow Spiders & Other Worlds Part 3
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 4
Resources used:
http://www.mythinglinks.org/ct~weaving.html
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/8116/story.html
http://www.wic.org/artwork/spiderw.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arachne
The Women’s Encyclopedia of Myths & Secrets, Barbara G. Walker
The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Witches Second Edition, Guiley
The Witch Book (Encyclopedia of Witchcraft, Wicca and Neopaganism, Buckland
Shadow People, Shadow Beings, Shadow Spiders & Other Worlds Part 3
Part 3:
A little bit more on Hypnagogia –I wanted to comment on some of the information out there.
In the period of waking up or falling asleep sufferers of hypnogogia feel awake in the mind but paralyzed in the body.
The above statement is not completely true. Not all people experience paralysis. For those who do, they do not experience it all the time and some people only experience it in the beginning, if at all. Let me also point out that if you are going to research this, it is spelt Hypnagogia not hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is a common misspelling of the word.
That’s all I am going to say about Hypnagogia for now. We will go back into it later on once I weed out the info concerning it.
So what is on the agenda for today? Let’s go back to the Shadow People.
To refresh your memory:
Shadow people (also known as shadow men, shadow folk, or shadow beings) are supernatural shadow-like creatures of both modern folklore and traditional native American beliefs. According to folklore, they appear as dark forms in the peripheries of people’s vision and disintegrate, or move between walls, when noticed.[1][2]—Wikipedia
Possible explanations for Shadow People :
*Other World—dimension: Some people theorize that these beings come from another level of existence, other world or another dimension. Some believe that this dimension sometimes overlaps with ours, letting us catch a glimpse of them.
*Watchers: Some believe that these beings are what they call, “Watchers’. Now theories vary here and you will find people who actually relate them to the Watchers of the Fallen Angels. Some relate them to the Watchers of the biblical sense which did not fail God, or they have a whole other legend following. I think its important that people wash the ‘evil’ sense away from these theories though. As long as we fear it, hyping ourselves up, we will never discover the truth. Personally, I believe this is your own back yard. Nothing can hurt you unless you let it. Until we figure out what these beings are, its best we keep the fear at bay. This way we can come to some conclusion and investigate.
*Evil: With the above being said, I have to mention that one of the most common beliefs out there is that these beings are Evil, a devil or demons and some people go as far as to say , it is Lucifer himself. I can’t agree with that, sorry. I do not want to judge other people on their experiences but once people get passed the fear, there are too many positive and interesting testaments out there concerning this phenomena. I doubt that if it were Evil, that would be so. Fear kills us from discovering the truth…from fear comes ignorance and from ignorance, blindness…period.
*Ghosts or Spirits: It is one of the most common theories out there hovering right next to the Evil, demon one. People seem to believe that the Shadow spirit or being is just another type of Ghosts or Spirits. I think it is too simple of an answer BUT, if that’s all they have, then I respect that. Like us, they are just trying to figure this whole thing out right? And it is way better than the Evil thing.
*Astral projectors: Some people seem to think that these beings are someone astral projecting either from another dimension or from our own. Like people, they can be good or bad.
*Karma: Someone said that people begin to experience these beings once they start clearing out Karma. That’s all they said but later, I found many others who felt the same thing. Now even though this is at the bottom of the list for reasons, I thought it worth mentioning because it is a spreading reason.
*Succubus or Incubi: This is also at the bottom of the list and also fits under the whole Evil/Fear explanation. Apparently these people are having sex in their dreams and it is leaving them absolutely exhausted or drained.
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I think that is enough reasons. So lets focus on the lore surrounding them and or the Shadow of a person rather. That might help.
Egyptians called the shadow khaibut. The Egyptians believed that the khaibut was one of seven souls that each person had. The Roman word for shadow was umbra, also meaning ‘the shade’ or the ghost of an individual who went to a place called the Land of Shades. The land of Shades was believed to be underground or part of an Underworld and after the person died, their shadow went there. In Greece, people were known to dedicate their shadows or give them over to a God such as Zeus. This was considered to be a marvelous sacrifice but at the same time or later on, fearsome. For instance, it was believed that if a person went to the temple or sanctuary of Zeus Lycaeus, they would lose their shadows. For those who do not know, Lycaeus was believed to be the origin of Werewolves and from this particular story, maybe some of the lore concerning werewolves became born. In medieval times, werewolves and vampires were a phenomena that said that anyone cursed this way, lacked a shadow or reflection. They lacked soul.
Also in the medieval times, cornering a witch and proving her to be one, the shadow played a big part. If someone sold their soul to the devil then they had no shadow—hence shadow being linked with the soul again. In Europe, people believed that the shadow beings desired blood and without it, couldn’t be reborn. Superstitions and fear spread like the black plague concerning a person’s shadow. People refused to let their shadows fall on graves, a rumbling river or near a cliff.
In biblical times, curses were spoken on a person’s shadow. For example in Numbers 14:9 –“Their shadow is departed from them.” Saying something like that meant undeniable doom and was the lowest of low. I gather that in today’s times, it would be worse than throwing shoes.
Now kicking aside the superstitious fear concerning the shadow, according to Pagans and those before them, in ancient times…a person who did not have a shadow was NOT a demon, a vampire, a werewolf or someone who had given their soul over to any devil. They were believed to have went into some sort of eternal bliss.
Plutarch said, “At the end of the world, the blessed ones would be happy forever. In a state neither needing food nor casting a shadow.”
So if we take into consideration what the Ancients believed concerning ‘Shadows, Shadow sightings and people’, is it safe to say that the Shadow experience you have had, is indeed a spirit or ghost or someone who has passed on to the other side? Maybe, but then again I have to personally wonder…why are so many sightings the same? Why is the image that we see of the Shadow person always a common one? Is it that all dead people wear hats, or cloaks or are seen staring at the floor? Why are the shadows able to take full form or any form—animal, creature, man, while other dead people can only become orbs or when they take actual form, look like an actual person?
Where are the Shadow women? Not one person I have interviewed, have I heard or read any reports concerning a Shadow person looking like a woman. I have read and heard of small shadow figures being no bigger than a child but people do not connect them with actual children. it is only the size that they are compared to verses the others who can be up to seven feet or more in height. No women…unless you listen to the incredible but draining stories of sex that some seem to link with the succubus and incubus theories. With respect, those aren’t enough to me. There aren’t enough of them being told on or off the internet. So there doesn’t seem to be any pattern there for me except maybe someone is having some awesome dreams and the rest of us should be simply jealous lol.
If the Shadow beings are ‘Watchers’ then does this make them some sort of guardian? And why do some attack or is it like Carry said, it was her own fear doing this to her. If they are Watchers, then what are they watching? Surely they know more than we do. Is there a reason some see them and others do not? The ones who see them, do they have a link or connection to these beings while others may have a connection to some other paranormal type thing? I know it has nothing to do with open mindedness. I have interviewed to many people that had no knowledge and or belief in them. It just started to happen and that’s when they started looking for answers. Some incidents start happening when people are children while others happened as adults.
I think we will need to look more into the Underworld or Land of Shades, which again means there will be more parts to this subject. We also have to look into the lore of the Spider and try to help people figure out what that is that they are seeing. Like the shadow people, there are very few stories out there but even less concerning the spiders. The only answers that these people are finding is that either they are crazy, dreaming or it is being confused with some spiritual symbolism or dream analysis. These people like my friend Carry know that this is not a dream. So pretty soon we will explore that one and I am sure we will touch base with some of our previous subjects as well.
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 1
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 2
Shadow People, Shadow Beings, Shadow Spiders & Other Worlds Part 3
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 4
Resources:
http://www.sleepdex.org/hypnogogia.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Person
The Woman’s Encyclopedia of Myths & Secrets by Barbara G. Walkers
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 1
Part 1
(After beginning this article, I realized it is to broad of a topic to limit to one page. So there will be many parts in order to bring you all the information that I can find. If you have had an experience you wish to share with me, theories or concerns, feel free to contact me through my web site where you can reach me directly through my page there CONTACT ME . If you would like your story to be included in one of the articles, I will do so as well as keep your name private in order to protect your identity.)
This is one of the greatest phenomena’s concerning our Paranormal perplexities. If you Google Shadow People or Beings you will find endless stories written from a personal perspective, some information highly doused with theory (since that’s all we have) and a flustered guild of those who are at their wits end.
We discover those who are fearful, those who are merely curious, those who are fascinated and those who simply want answers. What we discover may not be scientifically proven but something tells me that this is merely a minor set back. This mystery does have the scientific community interested as well as those who investigate and study the Paranormal.
So what are Shadow People, Spiders and Beings?
We all know what spirits or ghosts are so I suppose we can place them in that category except, there is no proof that these beings are dead, repetitive echoes, a haunting or formless. They appear void at times if not strangely solid. One of the most common sightings has been the figure of a man or someone in a cloak. Sometimes they are seen wearing a hat or hooded sweat shirt. Whatever they are wearing, they lack color. As if you are staring into an actual person who is nothing more than solid smoke or even slightly transparent at times. The strange thing is, you can catch outlines concerning their face or clothes. It’s hard to think that anything which appears to be solid or merely bleak can have any sort of outline about it. But people have reported that at times they can make out their features clearly as well as the smaller details of their clothes. Some reports claim they have glowing eyes, mostly red. Some reports claim that they act unaware of them, as if passing from one room to the next while others claim these beings have had their attention directly on them. Many reports claim that the energy or feeling in the room changed to something fearsome. Other reports claim that the person witnessing this act was attacked or paralyzed.
Now before we fix our minds on a notion of fear—let’s reserve that until later because I have some theories of my own.
When do these sightings happen?
I call it the Twilight but a more technical word is Hypnagogia. Basically, it is known as a sleep paralysis which has the attention of many doctors and scientists who are studying it. The easiest way to describe it is, you go to bed, close your eyes, go to sleep. Only you do not go to sleep nor are you fully awake. You are stuck somewhere in between the state of sleep and the state of being awake. Now do not confuse this with sleep walking. That is NOT what it is. People who experience this are completely aware of everything that is going on around them. They can sit up in bed, walk through their house, pet a dog or see their wife or husband sleeping beside them. They can talk and interact even though their minds are not fully awake. So what is so different during this time that they seem to think they are partly asleep? Good question.
Even though they can interact with their normal environments, not everything is the same. It is as though they are lingering between two worlds. Their subconscious mind is in equal balance with their conscious mind. Meaning, they are open to whatever may come, eyes open beyond the veil but their conscious minds do not have the draw backs to jerk them out of it or to prevent them from seeing, experiencing and interacting with whatever may be. This is when people experience the Shadow Beings, Spiders or other types of Other Worldly phenomena. It is NOT the only time, but this is a common one as well as a wide spreading one.
Now it should be known that Science and Doctors have their own explanations of this but NOTHING is for certain simply because they are pretty much clueless as to what Hypnagogia is and what these people are really discovering during this phase. The experts are blaming it on sleeping positions, among other things, saying that if someone sleeps on their back and so on that this is what causes it.
Now it should be noted that I did say above that this phenomena is becoming widely spread. That doesn’t mean that it did not exist before. I think because of the internet and the loss of fear in speaking about these things has made it possible for others to realize that they are not alone. It should also be mentioned that Shadow beings have been reported since Ancient times but we will get more into that later.
A direct quote from Wikipedia concerning Hypnagogia:
Early references to hypnagogia are to be found in the writings of Aristotle, Iamblichus, Cardano, Simon Forman and Swedenborg.[11] Romanticism brought a renewed interest in the subjective experience of the edges of sleep.[12] In more recent centuries, many authors have referred to the state; Edgar Allan Poe, for example, wrote of the ‘fancies’ he experienced “only when I am on the brink of sleep, with the consciousness that I am so.
So you see it is not new by any means, only our awareness of it since we still seem to be in the Dark Ages concerning anything other than what is socially accepted. Being taught not to believe in such things or that it is against some sort of religion has really blind sided us I think. Let it be also known that during Hypnagogia or what I call ‘Twilight’, Shadow people or beings are not the only thing experienced. Many people claim that they have got up from their beds, walked out the door to new or past worlds. Some have experienced or revisited past lives or countries. One woman I read about, reported standing by her bedroom window, waving to people who were passing by outside her home. They stood there waving at her while she waved back at them. At some point she woke up, finding herself standing there waving only the people she remembered in every detail were no longer present. Other people report having long conversations with deceased relatives who are possibly standing by their bed or sitting in the same room with them. Some people claim that they are visited by those who are not dead. They have absolutely no idea what they are, but they do know death did not bring them to their bedrooms.
Now even though Twilight is not the only time this happens, this is one of the biggest reports of the Shadow Beings that people claim to experience. Possibly because our minds are so open and we can see beyond the Veil—my theory.
Some people say that they are attacked. That this black mass or presence paralyzes them so that they can not move or even scream. Others claim that they are not attacked but wake up finding these beings standing over them, simply watching which may be how they came to be called, ‘The Watchers’. One woman I know claims to have woken up, been fully awake while a young man in a hooded sweat shirt swept through her room and went out the window. Now she did not think that he jumped but simply leaped through his doorway, to where ever he came from. This woman has had this happen quite a few times, same boy, same details only she was not experiencing Twilight during any of those times. In fact, she told me she had never experienced Twilight.
So you see Twilight is not the only time you can experience this. Many reports say that they were standing in their kitchen (or somewhere), felt the energy or feeling of the room change, caught something in the corner of their eye, turned around quickly and the Shadow Being was standing there, watching them.
Shadow Spiders
People claim to be sleeping or rather Twilight, watching these HUGE spiders of abnormal size crawl around their beds, glide down over their heads from webs and so on. At times they see smaller ones but it is usually the bigger ones that cause them the greatest shock and fright. It is usually scary enough to snap them out of the Twilight completely, where the spiders are then gone. There hasn’t been to many people offering them any enlightenment concerning this. In fact, I was shocked that on these forums that I researched, to find that quite a few people who rattled away concerning their belief in the Shadow People in other threads, literally make fun of the people who were seeking answers concerning the spiders. Unfortunately I can not give anyone any hard crusted evidence here but I can explain a situation shared with me by a life long friend who has experienced the spiders for years as well as the Twilight. In the end, draw your own conclusions.
My friend who I will call Carry has experienced Twilight, Shadow beings and the Spiders for years. It started off with the Shadow Beings and for the past three years or so, spiders. In fact her experiences are so interesting, I thought I would save it for the part 2 of this article. That’s not to torment you…simply to give her some due since to me, she has come a long way concerning this phenomena. Now with that being said, I am also unsure of how many parts there will be concerning this article. There is a lot of information, even some concerning other Dimensions, to cover and since it seems so scattered and scarce, I thought it would be nice to put it all in one place. We still have to deal with people’s fears of being attacked, of the unknown and of the Twilight itself. Or the uncomfortable horrors of being watched and so on. I think though in closing the first article up, I will focus on Carry being the center of Part two because honestly, I think her experiences will shed light and possibly another view point concerning all of this. She has known the fear, the uncomfortable situations and has moved passed that to discover something quite different. So, until then…
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 1
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 2
Shadow People, Shadow Beings, Shadow Spiders & Other Worlds Part 3
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 4
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 2
Part 2
(After beginning this article, I realized it is to broad of a topic to limit to one page. So there will be many parts in order to bring you all the information that I can find. If you have had an experience you wish to share with me, theories or concerns, feel free to contact me through my web site where you can reach me directly through my page there CONTACT ME . If you would like your story to be included in one of the articles, I will do so as well as keep your name private in order to protect your identity.)
Please see Part 1 of these articles if you are just beginning.
Carry’s Experience:
Whether you are a believer, someone who is experienced or a nonbeliever, I thought it a great add to these articles to include the experiences of my friend Carry. Why? Because Carry has been dealing with this phenomena for years and where she is now, her understanding or emotions, seems very intriguing to me. When she first started out, her story reflected that of many (those who are telling them now on the internet) and who are first awakening or discovering this whole mystery. She has felt the fear that many new comers are experiencing now. She may not have any new answers that can be laid in stone but where she started and where she has ended up, or is now, is a must tell. So I am going to tell it. I decided to send Carry questions and based on her answers we either built on that with more questions or went from there, like an interview because she felt that would be easier.
If Carry typed an lol (laughing out loud) then I included it.
Carry, when did all of this start? When did you first encounter Shadow People or beings and what were your feelings concerning them at first?
I don’t know how old I was exactly, I mean I think I was 19 or early 20’s? I’d like to say I was 13 but I still don’t know what happened that day when we saw what we did. If it wasn’t for my friends who were playing basketball with me, I’d probably say I was dreaming. Another story! (laughs) Yeah, 19 or early 20’s. Let’s just go with that.
And your feelings?
Scared. I thought they were ghosts or even demons. (lol)
Are you religious then?
If you are asking if I am a Christian and go to church, no but I do have my own personal beliefs ya know?
So why demons?
Well (lol), its not as though I knew what was going on. I mean at first you think your crazy and you need meds but then when it keeps happening, you know that’s not it. For me it was scary at first and for a long time after but now I kind of understand why maybe that was.
Ok, so what was so frightening about it? What exactly happened and when was the breaking point, that you knew you weren’t crazy?
My niece was 4 or 5 years old and they were visiting. I still lived at home or my parents at the time. I didn’t see my niece a lot but my brother and his wife were religious. I mean they went to church and everything so I didn’t exactly tell them about what had been happening to me. We aren’t really close ya know? Anyway, I was sitting in the living room kind of watching TV when my niece came up to me and tugged on my shirt. I turned around and she whispered in my ear. “Aunt Carry, there’s a man in your bedroom.”
Oh God, I think that would have given me chills, lol.
lol it did, I won’t lie but it also made me curious lol. I asked her what he looked like and she said he was wearing a long coat and his eyes glowed red and that his hair was long, black and that he kind of looked like a invisible shadow but she could see the shape of his lines, face etc. She said he was in the doorway now, watching us and that was pretty much all she said before her mother grabbed her, laughed her off and blamed it on the imagination of a child.
So what happened then?
Well nothing more was said about it but my niece did more for me then than she will ever know. She confirmed what I was seeing myself only I had tossed it off as dreaming it up.
Did she ever tell you anything more?
No, they lived far away and they didn’t like anyone encouraging her about that kind of stuff. It was funny though because about two years back, they came in for a family reunion and my sister in law brought it up. Suddenly she was open about little kids seeing what adults couldn’t and then started talking about that *man* my niece seen in my room. My niece was like, “really?” She said that she remembered seeing things as a kid but not of what and she said she believed that something scared her which made her stop seeing things. I always thought it was lack of encouragement lol but hey, who am I to say?
Ok so what happened after the niece confirmed the man?
Nothing worth bragging about. I seen him from time to time and something told me he was always there but the times that I seen him kind of scattered out until I wasn’t seeing him at all anymore.
How did you see him when you were?
I would see him standing over my bed, watching me when I slept. I would wake up and then he would be there. Or I would dream, I guess it was dreams, that he was taking me places, showing me things that happened in previous lives I guess? I know that I have never really had ghosts or spirits especially when he was around. I know people always say that their dead grandmothers or whatever would come and see them, visit but i never felt a connection like that to anyone in my family. Once they were dead, there was no reason to visit me. He was the only paranormal activity that I experienced or any link I felt to the other side if that makes sense.
So did you ever find out who he was or his name or anything?
Nope. I kind of gave him my own name which I wont say here. That’s between him and me ya know? I never understood what he was or what his exact connection was with me but later on in years I passed it off as not being able to comprehend it.
What do you mean, comprehend it?
Well its kind of like the sky or grass. How do we know its blue or green? Because we grew up being told it was. That is apart of our reality ya know? So maybe my mind couldn’t comprehend what he was or where he was from because its not apart of our reality lol. Maybe i couldn’t handle or understand it. Thinking back now, I can totally understand that. I mean until my niece confirmed it, I thought I was nuts or needed a padded room. I do know that I never thought he was dead though. Nothing ever gave me that impression and even now, I don’t think he is. Especially later on, when I started researching and investigating the paranormal, having had some other weird experiences, well he just isn’t dead.
Ok, so you said before you stopped seeing him so much. Obviously, because I know you, you started experiencing something. So can you tell me about that?
lol if I gotta but I do have to say that even though I didn’t see him as much, he was there if that makes any sense. Anyway, some years later I got an apartment. I got home from work, went to bed and woke up. I saw a young man standing over me, his head titled down in a hooded sweat shirt. he was just standing there, not really staring at me personally but where I was laying.
What did you do?
Went back to sleep lol. I mean I was fully awake and fully aware but I just passed it off as a spirit or something. I seen him a couple times after that, in the same way but I never felt anything bad from him.
So was the man around at this time?
Not in the way that I was seeing him. I just started seeing other things like the hooded sweat shirt guy. I didn’t know that other people seen him to. I mean I found that out in the past year or so because of the internet lol. In fact I totally forgot about the sweat shirt man until I went searching about Shadow people.
And what made you search out them?
Well after I moved from the apartment, I moved to a house. In that house some crazy things started happening. I started experiencing what you and me call the Twilight. I was trapped somewhere between awake and sleep. The stuff that was happening to me then kind of freaked me out. No, actually they did freak me out. I would sleep with the lights on lol. It was a Shadow but it never took the form of a man but of shadow shapes like once a dragon I think it was. Its shadow would kind of swallow up a whole side of the room or just black out everything over me. And it would literally hold me down, paralyze me so that I couldn’t even scream. I didn’t know what it was but I knew it wasn’t my imagination. The temperatures in the room would change and there would be cold or intense spots. I had a little dog once who would literally bark and bite at the real intense spots. Sorry for that dog but I used to experiment lol, throwing him towards the spot he was barking and biting at. the dog would jump back, get real ferocious and then hide under my bed, growling and so on. Its funny though because even though I was scared to death, it never struck me or really attacked me or anything. Maybe I snapped out of it before it could? It was kind of my own fear of it that was hurting me or at least that is what I think now.
You think it was something to do with the house?
I didn’t know what to think. I do know that I moved about three times after that and it continued. Off and on and I never knew when.
Does it still happen?
Nope. I got determined that I was gonna see it through when it happened again. I would not wake up and I would not get scared. I started to really break it down. I mean what was I afraid of? Was it the energy? That made sense to me. I mean we get kind of comfortable thinking we are home alone so we go do stuff that we normally do. Suddenly we catch something out of the corner of our eye or we feel a presence. Because we are not used to it or don’t understand it, it rattles our minds. I accepted it, in a sense, and it no longer scared me. So it stopped happening. Something new started happening but not the fear and what I thought were attacks.
Which was?
Well lol…I started seeing the shadow people straight out. I didn’t have to be sleeping or well, in Twilight. They would show up and if the energy was to intense, then HE would show up and it would be gone.
Oh so the man your niece saw came back?
Well like I said, I always felt him there but yeah, as far as seeing him again, he came back, once in a blue moon that is.
Alright, so what else changed?
Well about this time I got a computer and discovered the wonderful world of the internet. It didn’t help as far as figuring out what these shadows were but it did help me in the same sense that my niece did…that there were others who were experiencing this stuff. There were a lot of people stuck on the demon notions but seriously, I don’t think they are demons. And I think its their own fear attacking them, not the shadows but that is based on my own experience and what I overcame. So I guess I have no right to say that about them…its just my opinion lol.
This was when you found out about Twilight though, right? Or the technical name for it which is Hypnagogia?
Yeah because you emailed me the information lol. But that was in the past year or so I guess. It’s a comfort knowing that others are experiencing this but its a bummer to know that a lot of people think the devil is playing tricks with them or tossing it off as sleep disorder.
So why do you think this is happening more and more and what do you have to tell them people who are experiencing it?
Well I think that its a mix to be honest of happening more and more and then having a way to let millions know that it has been happening. I mean the internet is pretty awesome. But for the ones who are just starting to experience it, I think its because our minds are starting to open. Maybe the Veil between worlds is thinning. Maybe something has changed that these beings are now noticeable. I don’t really know to tell the truth. I mean if the ozone layer can thin then why can’t a veil lol.
As far as people just starting to experience it, separate your own fear from the shadows energy and how that makes you feel. I swear I believe, I was holding myself back with mine and sometimes I still have to get a grip. the thing is, if people are suddenly seeing them then there is a reason. So try to comprehend that and what you are seeing the best you can.
Ok as far as getting a grip, I think you mean the spiders. That seems to be something wide spread and people are really struggling for answers there. There aren’t many who are giving them a break where that is concerned.
Oh yeah, like I was chatting in a chat room one night when this guy was yelling about reptilians and planet X but then when I brought up spiders, he treated me like I was off my rocker lol. Whatever. The spiders are a new thing and I had a real hard time dealing with those.
Oh yeah lol that arachnophobia thing.
lol well you know me. I never liked em. But, they helped me get over that I think. I started researching some cultures that believed in a spider woman or goddess like the American Indians so I thought maybe there was something connected with the spiders and that. I hope you do an article of all the stuff you helped me find.
Yes, I planned on it. So tell me more about the spiders.
Well I always experience them during Twilight and I don’t see the shadow figures anymore or haven’t since the spiders. They started in the last house I rented and would scare me so bad that I would snap out of the Twilight into a full awake zone lol. Like the shadows, I got fed up with it and decided that I would just deal with them. The last time I saw them, they had spun these thick webs around my hand. My boyfriend said that he actually woke up and watched me waving my hand through the air, studying something on my hand until I snapped out of it, got up, got a drink of water and went back to sleep. I remember what I was doing. In Twilight, its not like your dreaming and can’t remember. I just know I came to terms with it. When I was waving my hand, it was like the web was blowing in a breeze and the trails of it would fade and evaporate. I even remember the smaller spiders which are quite bulky and fat, crawling around my hand and legs. I didn’t freak out though. I just got bored and went into full awake mode. Nothing has happened since.
It sounds to me that you keep going through tests or maybe we can call them that for the sake of theory. The shadow things scarred you until you got a grip on it. Then the spiders, until you got a grip on it. So I wonder what’s next?
I don’t know lol but I am open to find out. I mean, I can never serve any of this up as proof to anyone else but as far as my own curiosity, I am so ready for the next level. Its all so strange to me but perfectly normal all at the same time. I know what it must sound like to other people who have never experienced any of this but to me, its like breathing. I don’t try to force it but when it happens, I hang on every bit of it. Instead of being afraid, I try to experience as much of it as I can. I hope more people start sharing their personal experiences because people like me are always clicking, searching and reading them.
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I personally thank Carry for sharing her experiences with me over the years and for letting me do this interview for my articles. There will be a part three but since there is so much to cover, I don’t know if it will concern dimensions, spider lore or what. I can promise that there will be a part 3 and probably more after that.
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 1
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 2
Shadow People, Shadow Beings, Shadow Spiders & Other Worlds Part 3
Shadow People, Shadow Spiders, Shadow Beings & Other Worlds Part 4
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